What's better to get a LCSW (licensed clinical social worker) or a MSW (Master's of Social Work)?
I want to attend patients do a one on one in an office like a psychologist. Which one is better to get a LCSW or a MSW? What schools are those offered in North California East Bay (that don't require a GRE)? I know MSW is 2 to 3 years long, how long is the LCSW? PS I already did my bachelors in Psychology
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you get your MSW and then you apply for your LCSW......Sorry you have to take the GRE no matter what to get into grad school
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Hi, First of all, you can't get an LCSW (Licensed Clinical Social Worker) designation till after you complete the MSW (Masters in Social Work) degree. Here's how it works in NY: You get the MSW and sit for the state licensing exam to be an LMSW (Licensed Master Social Worker.) You can counsel at that point, under the supervision of a licensed psychologist or LCSW. After three years of experience, you may sit for the LCSW exam, and become a Licensed Clinical Social Worker. And by the way, in the NY state universities, you do NOT need a GRE to apply to a masters program, only a doctoral program. Regarding social work licensing and admission requirements, each state has their own requirements and some do it a little differently. Feel free to email me. Kate BS Psychology Currently in grad school earning an MSW Graduate Assistant, conduct the information sessions for prospective MSW students at my university
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Other people have basically answered the LMSW question properly. The important thing here is that a license is different from a degree. A license is designed for a state to verify you have the skills/experience/training to do the job you want to do. A degree welcomes you into a profession. You can be a social worker without a license, but you can not get a license without a degree. Now as for where to get your MSW. North California East Bay has a new (they are in candidacy) MSW program with a community mental health option. This would work for licensure. In CA after you finish your MSW you apply for ASW status then it is 3200 hours, 2000 clinical 750 of which must be psychotherapy and 1200 can be either clinical or other contexts. Here is all the info you need here: http://www.bbs.ca.gov/ DA
Friday, June 22, 2012
Friday, June 15, 2012
Master of theological studies vs. master of social work
Master of theological studies vs. master of social work?
Hi all, I'm currently enlisted in the U.S. Army as an MP and have completed a BA in International Affairs from Baylor University. After two years of enlisted service I have decided to go back to school and concurrently pursue Army ROTC to earn a commission. I know that after earning my commission and completing graduate school that I'll be engaged in active duty service for at least four years. The one thing I'm questioning now is the post-military relevance of a degree in either theological studies or social work. I have an interest in both fields, but am having trouble deciding on which to pursue. I want to help the poor and oppressed with all of my energy either in or out of a faith-based organization. I also need to support myself and perhaps a family after my military service. What do you think about this situation? Any advice? Thank you in advance.
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Well, let me first salute you in your military service! Just as an everyday person (or 'civilian' ;) there may be more job opportunities for those with a master's degree in social work (MSW) as opposed to a degree in theological studies. How about talking with a student advisor at a college that offers both types of degrees. For general career information: http://www.bls.gov/oco and can search 'social workers' or such. If considering a degree in theology, please only consider programs accredited within the industry - Association of Theological Schools: http://www.ats.edu For accredited programs in social work: http://www.cswe.org US colleges: http://www.utexas.edu/world/univ Bless you for serving your country and please stay well. For possible volunteer opportunities: http://www.volunteermatch.org
Hi all, I'm currently enlisted in the U.S. Army as an MP and have completed a BA in International Affairs from Baylor University. After two years of enlisted service I have decided to go back to school and concurrently pursue Army ROTC to earn a commission. I know that after earning my commission and completing graduate school that I'll be engaged in active duty service for at least four years. The one thing I'm questioning now is the post-military relevance of a degree in either theological studies or social work. I have an interest in both fields, but am having trouble deciding on which to pursue. I want to help the poor and oppressed with all of my energy either in or out of a faith-based organization. I also need to support myself and perhaps a family after my military service. What do you think about this situation? Any advice? Thank you in advance.
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Well, let me first salute you in your military service! Just as an everyday person (or 'civilian' ;) there may be more job opportunities for those with a master's degree in social work (MSW) as opposed to a degree in theological studies. How about talking with a student advisor at a college that offers both types of degrees. For general career information: http://www.bls.gov/oco and can search 'social workers' or such. If considering a degree in theology, please only consider programs accredited within the industry - Association of Theological Schools: http://www.ats.edu For accredited programs in social work: http://www.cswe.org US colleges: http://www.utexas.edu/world/univ Bless you for serving your country and please stay well. For possible volunteer opportunities: http://www.volunteermatch.org
Friday, June 8, 2012
What kind of jobs are out there in counseling or social work
What kind of jobs are out there in counseling or social work?
I am trying to decide what I want to be when I grow up (I am 31 years old! LOL). I majored in Psychology and am leaning toward counseling or social work. I want to get my masters now that the kids are older and will all be in school soon. With a masters in social work, one can counsel, as well as do social work. My question is to all those out there in similar fields: what is your masters in and how do you like your job? Any other suggestions? I have been out of school so long I really don't know where to start. Thanks!
Psychology - 5 Answers
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Try being a guidance counselor in the school system. Then you will have the same hours as your kids' school days.
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anything you want to work in you can find a job. Companies who have nothing to do with counseling keep couselors on staff to deal with employee family situations confidentially. Just go for it, with good grades and a positive attitude there are plenty of jobs to chose from.
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Hi Airy, I think it is far more important to settle in your mind what you want to achieve as a counsellor. Your experience with your own children would be fantastic as would your time away from the workforce. I think you could make a fantastic professional statement to the industry. Attitude more important than academia, IMO.
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Another person asked this question earlier- here's what i wrote him: 1) you can pretty much do anything you want with a psych degree The different fields that you can go into for research psychology are: Abnormal psychology- the study of abnormal behavior Cognitive psychology - studies cognition, the mental processes underlying behavior Comparative psychology - the study of the behavior and mental life of animals other than human beings Developmental psychology - Mainly focusing on the development of the human mind through the life span Personality psychology studies enduring psychological patterns of behavior, thought and emotion, commonly called an individual's personality Psychometrics- study of differences between individuals. Like the difference between intelligence, abilities, attitude, etc... Social psychology is the study of the nature and causes of human social behavior, with an emphasis on how people think towards each other and how they relate to each other (one of my favorites) Applied psychology - psychological research that is designed to help individuals overcome practical problems Clinical psychology is the application of abnormal psychology research to the understanding, treatment, and assessment of psychopathology (the field that I'm going into) Counseling psychology - dealing with personal and interpersonal functioning across the life span with a focus on emotional, social, vocational, educational, health-related, developmental, and organizational concerns. They differ from clinical psychs because they focus more on the 'nomral' developmental patterns and everyday stress. Educational psychology - the study of how humans learn in educational settings Forensic psychology is the area concerned with the application of psychological methods and principles to the legal arena (another one of my favorites) Health psychology -the application of psychological theory and research to health, illness and health care Industrial and organizational psychology (I/O) - Industrial Psychology focuses on improving, evaluating, and predicting job performance while Organizational Psychology focuses on how organizations impact and interact with individuals Human factors psychology - the study of how cognitive and psychological processes affect our interaction with tools and objects in the environment So...yea you can pretty much do everything with a psychology degree
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You can study just about anything with psychology...but you will have a hard time getting an actual job without a PhD. Counseling is great if all you want to do is do individual, group, or family therapy. Social work is a better degree if you know you want to work in human services and are interested in donig many things from administration (developing programs), work across systems (individual, family, community, etc.). Over time Social work is a more versatile degree, giving you more options. DA
I am trying to decide what I want to be when I grow up (I am 31 years old! LOL). I majored in Psychology and am leaning toward counseling or social work. I want to get my masters now that the kids are older and will all be in school soon. With a masters in social work, one can counsel, as well as do social work. My question is to all those out there in similar fields: what is your masters in and how do you like your job? Any other suggestions? I have been out of school so long I really don't know where to start. Thanks!
Psychology - 5 Answers
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Try being a guidance counselor in the school system. Then you will have the same hours as your kids' school days.
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anything you want to work in you can find a job. Companies who have nothing to do with counseling keep couselors on staff to deal with employee family situations confidentially. Just go for it, with good grades and a positive attitude there are plenty of jobs to chose from.
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Hi Airy, I think it is far more important to settle in your mind what you want to achieve as a counsellor. Your experience with your own children would be fantastic as would your time away from the workforce. I think you could make a fantastic professional statement to the industry. Attitude more important than academia, IMO.
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Another person asked this question earlier- here's what i wrote him: 1) you can pretty much do anything you want with a psych degree The different fields that you can go into for research psychology are: Abnormal psychology- the study of abnormal behavior Cognitive psychology - studies cognition, the mental processes underlying behavior Comparative psychology - the study of the behavior and mental life of animals other than human beings Developmental psychology - Mainly focusing on the development of the human mind through the life span Personality psychology studies enduring psychological patterns of behavior, thought and emotion, commonly called an individual's personality Psychometrics- study of differences between individuals. Like the difference between intelligence, abilities, attitude, etc... Social psychology is the study of the nature and causes of human social behavior, with an emphasis on how people think towards each other and how they relate to each other (one of my favorites) Applied psychology - psychological research that is designed to help individuals overcome practical problems Clinical psychology is the application of abnormal psychology research to the understanding, treatment, and assessment of psychopathology (the field that I'm going into) Counseling psychology - dealing with personal and interpersonal functioning across the life span with a focus on emotional, social, vocational, educational, health-related, developmental, and organizational concerns. They differ from clinical psychs because they focus more on the 'nomral' developmental patterns and everyday stress. Educational psychology - the study of how humans learn in educational settings Forensic psychology is the area concerned with the application of psychological methods and principles to the legal arena (another one of my favorites) Health psychology -the application of psychological theory and research to health, illness and health care Industrial and organizational psychology (I/O) - Industrial Psychology focuses on improving, evaluating, and predicting job performance while Organizational Psychology focuses on how organizations impact and interact with individuals Human factors psychology - the study of how cognitive and psychological processes affect our interaction with tools and objects in the environment So...yea you can pretty much do everything with a psychology degree
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You can study just about anything with psychology...but you will have a hard time getting an actual job without a PhD. Counseling is great if all you want to do is do individual, group, or family therapy. Social work is a better degree if you know you want to work in human services and are interested in donig many things from administration (developing programs), work across systems (individual, family, community, etc.). Over time Social work is a more versatile degree, giving you more options. DA
Friday, June 1, 2012
I want to do social work in the USA, i have a undergraduate degree and masters in this area, is this enough
I want to do social work in the USA, i have a undergraduate degree and masters in this area, is this enough?
I am moving over to the US to marry my long time boyfriend. I really want to work in the child protective services area. Is a degree in behavioral sciences and a masters in social work enough? I got these at an Australian University.
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the government hires retards, drug addicts and people with one leg and one arm who cant speak and don't have eye lids to be social workers i'm sure with a masters u could get in
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get your green card first. Then look at "Early Intervention Agencies" they typically hire on a 'fee-for-services basis'. You so home visits, you write up reports, you get paid. Probably the best job in the industry, and an MSW will help a LOT. Being bilingual (we KNOW that Aussies don't speak English LOL JK) you should have little troubel
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For your reference I am forwarding you the website link that will give you idea about the requirements to get enter in this profession. The link is
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It depends on the state and if your degree was from a program accredited by the Council on Social Work Education (CSWE). Different states have different requirements for social work licenses. You should check the state that you want to move to and contact the child welfare system there (eg, the Department of Social Services) for the county. For instance, I live in Detroit where we have a number of people with foreign degrees because we are right next to Canada. Canadians who work in Detroit often have difficulty getting a social work license from the State of Michigan. There's a process for having your foreign degree and experience recognized but it's often an arduous process. Depending on where you move you might have to take additional classes or have a limited license until you have a year or two of supervised social work experience in that State working under the direction of a fully licensed MSW.
I am moving over to the US to marry my long time boyfriend. I really want to work in the child protective services area. Is a degree in behavioral sciences and a masters in social work enough? I got these at an Australian University.
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the government hires retards, drug addicts and people with one leg and one arm who cant speak and don't have eye lids to be social workers i'm sure with a masters u could get in
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get your green card first. Then look at "Early Intervention Agencies" they typically hire on a 'fee-for-services basis'. You so home visits, you write up reports, you get paid. Probably the best job in the industry, and an MSW will help a LOT. Being bilingual (we KNOW that Aussies don't speak English LOL JK) you should have little troubel
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For your reference I am forwarding you the website link that will give you idea about the requirements to get enter in this profession. The link is
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It depends on the state and if your degree was from a program accredited by the Council on Social Work Education (CSWE). Different states have different requirements for social work licenses. You should check the state that you want to move to and contact the child welfare system there (eg, the Department of Social Services) for the county. For instance, I live in Detroit where we have a number of people with foreign degrees because we are right next to Canada. Canadians who work in Detroit often have difficulty getting a social work license from the State of Michigan. There's a process for having your foreign degree and experience recognized but it's often an arduous process. Depending on where you move you might have to take additional classes or have a limited license until you have a year or two of supervised social work experience in that State working under the direction of a fully licensed MSW.
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